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Friday, February 27. 2009Siemens' Engagement in RussiaPosted by Editors in German Politics, International Economics on Friday, February 27. 2009 This is a guest post by Peter Männer, who is commenting regularly here under the pseudonym of 'Zyme' and working without it as a pupil barrister in Regensburg for the judiciary branch of Bavaria. Transatlantic relations as well as Franco-German relations are expected to suffer from the latest development of Siemens' engagement in Russia. On February 2nd, Siemens declared that it was going to make use of its "Put"-option regarding its 34 % share of a joint venture with the French nuclear company Areva. This step has been made due to the fact that Paris had blocked Siemens for years from gaining influence on decision making within the 'AREVA NP joint venture'. In Moscow on February 3rd, when Siemens CEO Peter Löscher and his board were presenting the operational results of the last quarter, they also announced an agreement with Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin containing an alliance between Siemens and the Russian Atomenergoprom. The latter has been founded in 2007 as a means of consolidating the entire chain of nuclear industry in Russia, covering all aspects from uranium mining to nuclear research, production and management of nuclear power plants as well as propulsions for nuclear submarines. The Russian Prime Minister called the agreement a "large-scale partnership, ready to work in Russia, in Germany as well as in third countries", while the coordinator of energy policy for the conservative CDU/CSU parliamentary group in the German Parliament, Joachim Pfeiffer, explained that "politics must have an interest in Siemens maintaining and expanding its competence in nuclear energy, to be able to play a significant role on the world market." Claude Mandil, a former executive director of the Paris-based International Energy Agency, pronounced his regret about the loss of a "European Partnership" between Siemens and the French Areva company due to Siemen's intentions. Le Monde went even further in considering this agreement as just the latest of Vladimir Putin's efforts about dividing the Europeans, calling it a "Looming German-Russian Axis in nuclear affairs". From the United States, Stephen Szabo, the executive director of the Transatlantic Academy in Washington, warned Berlin from taking the road of the traditional German Seesaw policy between Washington and Moscow. In such moves he is seeing substantial differences between Germany and the United States regarding national interests, political cultures and their respective methods, which could endanger the revivement of the relationship between both countries. Trackbacks
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Joe Noory
- #1 - 2009-02-27 19:08 - (Reply)
This is a result of what's cutely euphemized as the "public-private partnership", as you can see by who the parties in this are: State-designate champion companies, and defacto state-run industries. They are so embedded in the structure of government that their corporate moves are percieved as international political moves. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #1.1 - 2009-02-28 00:10 - (Reply)
Joe, when nuclear is on the scene, you can't only leave it to private Cies to decide to whom they will sell their technology, otherwise all the non "civilised" states that can afford it would be equiped with it, and they would also built the "manufacture" to tranform the civil uranium into an arm, that is actually what is reproached to Iran. Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #1.1.1 - 2009-02-28 02:25 - (Reply)
Of course the export can be controlled. Russian and German technology sales to Iran are proof that this has nothing to do with that. Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #1.1.2 - 2009-03-06 18:44 - (Reply)
Unlike Airbus, Boeing's "subsidy" is that they sell airplanes. If you want to call the sales to the US govenment and military that subsidy, you might as well call the Airbus aircraft purchased by the US government a US subsidy to Airbus. You know the incedents of those sales... every time it happens, the Parisian papers make a point of saying that it's a sign of national pride and lowbrow American inferiority, again a too-cozy conflation of corporate-nationalism, ego, and government direct involvement in industry. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #2 - 2009-02-28 13:19 - (Reply)
One thing that seems to have been ignored is the perilous state Siemens finds itself. It would be interesting to find out what the strike price that Siemens has to be paid by Areva concerning its put option. Since the value of both companies has fallen some 60% in the last 52 weeks this situation could bankrupt Areva unless the French government steps in to guarantee Siemens price or allows Siemens to take over the company which was always its primary goal and since there are still at the talking stage its possible that Siemens is using the Russian monopoly as leverage. Siemens made a huge and smart bet that the price of Areva would go down and it has. Germany, to paraphrase an old Cold War headline, will have its finger on the trigger of the French nuclear industry. Comments ()
Don S
- #2.1 - 2009-03-03 16:10 - (Reply)
Excellent point about the position Seimens finds itself in, Pat. Seimens is probably in a relatively favorable position in terms of capital, but I suspect their markets are disasterous, even compared to the serial cluster - er disasters going on elsewhere. Seimens is largely a capital equipment manufacturer in a depression which hits investment particularly hard. Seimens domestic market is hard-hit, and Germany's adverse demographics make it's future darker. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #2.1.1 - 2009-03-03 16:18 - (Reply)
On second thought Siemens may not have any current interest in Areva, the overtures to Russia might be a feint but cashing that put option would give them liquidity to weather the recession. It could also allow the company to buy some other companies for pennies on the dollar or Euro as the case might be. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #3 - 2009-03-01 03:16 - (Reply)
http://www.lesechos.fr/info/energie/4835690.htm Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #3.1 - 2009-03-01 03:26 - (Reply)
What is it to be then state capitalism or state sponsored capitalism? The latter doesn't make much sense and seems to be backtracking! Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #3.2 - 2009-03-01 03:33 - (Reply)
I'm not sure what conclusion you drew from the article as it makes absolutely no mention of the put option. Is Areva planning on getting the French government to bail them out somehow because it appears, via admittedly rumour, that the 34% stake in the company that Siements owns has an strike price equal to the entire assets of Areva. And there has been absolutely no mention of any deal with the Russians at all. High ho, high ho! It's off to court we go! Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #3.2.1 - 2009-03-01 04:58 - (Reply)
from where are the rumors, never heard such ! Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #3.2.1.1 - 2009-03-01 07:37 - (Reply)
Rumour=opinion pieces on various financial blogs. With no attribution thus I won't cite them except as rumours. Comments ()
Dwight
- #4 - 2009-03-01 23:22 - (Reply)
I know that Germany's Siemens and Russia's state nuclear company have pledged to look at closer cooperation in what Russia said could lead to a powerful alliance in the world nuclear market. Moreover Siemens and Russia's Rosatom want to assess closer ties in the field of atomic energy. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #4.1 - 2009-03-01 23:45 - (Reply)
funny, are money gains there ? Comments ()
Josef
- #5 - 2009-03-03 12:47 - (Reply)
I also have read in the media recently that Russian officials signalled support for a proposed nuclear co-operation deal between German industrial giant Siemens and Russia's atomic energy agency.Putin also suggested a Russian-German joint venture could target the growing world market for commercial nuclear energy. To my mind it is not good news. Comments ()
Carl Kuhn
- #6 - 2009-06-08 00:21 - (Reply)
AREVA is a tiny company compared to Siemens. Alone Siemens' china business is larger then the whole AREVA. Siemens is well established in the conventional island part of the business and really does not need AREVA's help there. The customers normally do not want everything from one company but they like to choose the components from different ones. Comments ()
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