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Thursday, May 7. 2009"The Strongest Pledge One Nation Can Make"Posted by Editors in Transatlantic Relations on Thursday, May 7. 2009 Wesley Clark, NATO's former Supreme Allied Commander Europe, told Newsweek:
His comment on US-Russian relations is interesting as well:
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Pat Patterson
- #1 - 2009-05-07 15:21 - (Reply)
This is a very odd article considering the interviewee was lucky not to be courtmartialed for ordering a British general to attack a Russian contingent and continually called for a armored invasion of Serbia via Romania after being "asked" by the Clinton Administration to keep his comments to himself. Comments ()
Joerg - Atlantic Review
- #1.1 - 2009-05-07 18:37 - (Reply)
Are you referring to General Mike Jackson, who reportedly told Clark: "I'm not going to start the Third World War for you." Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #2 - 2009-05-07 21:13 - (Reply)
The fact that Gen Clark refers to an ebb in Russian/American relations and doesn't mention that he had a more than large hand in that setback. The Russians had been promised, unwisely, that they would have an independent command in the north and would not report to the NATO chain of command which through ignorance or spite Gen Clark refused to acknowledge. And the fact that his two immediate superiors thought him unfit to be president, including Gen Shelton. Comments ()
David
- #2.1 - 2009-05-12 13:32 - (Reply)
General Wesley Clark on torture: Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #2.1.1 - 2009-05-12 14:19 - (Reply)
"No wonder Pat intensely dislikes him?" Reading tea leaves or goats livers again must suffice for Gen Clark simply being wrong as waterboarding as described in the three documented cases, though obviously disagreeable does not meet the basic requirement of causing of the one treaty the US signed as "extreme pain". Also that Clark is wrong when he claims that this and the other imaginary agreements are binding on the US because the 6th Amendment supercedes any treaty that is contradictory to those rights. And we can surmise from the approval the current Speaker of the House gave that it must have been effective. Comments ()
John in Michigan, USA
- #2.1.1.1 - 2009-05-12 18:15 - (Reply)
"the 6th Amendment supercedes any treaty that is contradictory to those rights" Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #2.1.1.1.1 - 2009-05-12 22:30 - (Reply)
No, not Clark's and thank you as your explanation is much easier to understand then the one I have been flogging for months. The problem that I see is that Article 6 and the 6th Amendment are on a contradictory path and as of yet there has been no definitive SCOTUS decision to clear the confusion. I sense that the original Article was referring to the laws and treaties between nations, such as trade agreements, articles of war, purchase of land and the supremacy of the federal government in these areas. But I also don't think that the writers ever suspected that the Article would be used to redefine the relation between citizens and the federal government. In other words the idea that any treaties signed, especially those that have not been ratified, are binding on the citizens simply because of Article 6. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #3 - 2009-05-10 05:54 - (Reply)
When will Nato be paralysed ? Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #3.1 - 2009-05-10 06:36 - (Reply)
You should have done a bit more work on that idea as Almagor, an Israeli victims group, is using the Spanish courts to pressure the Spanish magistrates to drop any case against Israel for the Lebanaese invasion, Israeli attacks into Gaza and the West Bank as well as the assasination of a Hamas leader in Syria a few years ago. Prominently mentioned in the suit is Javier Solana, politicians of both parties and the Spanish equivalent of the JCS. Almagor is by no stretch of the imagination interested in any actual trial of Spanish officials during the NATO bombing of Serbia but rather for the Spanish to drop the pretension of being impartial. Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #3.1.1.1 - 2009-05-12 21:36 - (Reply)
Will I be able to sue the Syrian government in a court of law for their brutality in my family's village? Of course not - this business is a political instrument without real legal basis that cheapens the meaning of the lives of victims and attempts to abuse any victor in a conflict to construct an air of relativism. Comments ()
John in Michigan, USA
- #3.1.1.1.1 - 2009-05-12 21:46 - (Reply)
Not to mention, prosecuting Bill Clinton for his use of extraordinary rendition. I suspect that the worse abuses committed by Americans pale in comparison to the shit done to prisons we handed over to, for example, the Saudis. Comments ()
Don S
- #3.1.1.1.2 - 2009-05-13 00:21 - (Reply)
Hama Rules, or something very much like it, Joe? Comments ()
John in Michigan, USA
- #4 - 2009-05-11 09:58 - (Reply)
There is a related discussion of the importance of a strong pledge at "[url=http://www.atlantic-community.org/index/articles/addcomment/Saving_Europe_from_the_Idealists_]Saving Europe from the Idealists[/url]" Comments ()
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