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Friday, June 26. 2009Soccer is for Losers?Posted by Joerg Wolf in Transatlantic Relations on Friday, June 26. 2009 The mission of the American Enterprise Institute's blog is to provide "thoughtful and timely analysis on economic, foreign and social policy and politics." Today, Gary Schmitt wrote an extremely thoughtful analysis on the most important policy issue of the world, which is, of course, soccer, especially since Chancellor Merkel meets with President Obama today. Not only is Mr. Schmitt bashing soccer, but he also trashes us Europeans by suggesting that we like soccer because the better teams tend to lose:
Michael J.W. Stickings takes issue with Gary Schmitt's analysis as well and describes it as "another example of the right's deluded view of American exceptionalism: Americans are different. They're winners." Indeed, he is not the first conservative who made condescending statements about Europeans for their love of soccer. But, as I pointed out in the post The Superiority of American Culture and Sports, the liberal Huffington Post has published offending rants as well during the last soccer world cup in Germany. The Scottish journalist Alex Massie comments on Schmitt's article as well: "The Never-Ending Neoconservative War on Soccer". And Matthew Yglesias weighs in as well: Neocons Bemoan USA Soccer Victory Related articles on Atlantic Review: Soccer Diplomacy with Iran? America is expected to win the Super Bowl Trackbacks
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Pat Patterson
- #1 - 2009-06-26 22:34 - (Reply)
Conservatives hate soccer? That's odd as my grandfather and his brother both played minor league soccer in Scotlan and Ulster before World War I and both could chartiably described as to the left of John L Lewis. But my dad and his brother hated all those "hunky" sports because as my dad always explained that only people that would send waves of soldiers into fixed firing lanes would find a tie a sport. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #2 - 2009-06-27 03:44 - (Reply)
Now that I have had a little more time to read the original article, Matthew Yglesias's misrepresentation of it and a whole slew of comments by people that appeared not to have read Schmitt's post I can only ask what exactly is everyone so upset about. He congratulates the US for winning, no bemoaning, talks about how he has coached soccer for years, but points out the obvious in that after a concerted push for soccer at the amateur and professional level the effort has failed. Junior and high school girls in pony tailes excel then quit on graduation and the only adults still playing are mostly wearing the jerseys of teams from areas that most Americans couldn't find on a map or pronounce correctly. Comments ()
Pamela
- #3 - 2009-06-27 12:02 - (Reply)
soccer? What is the point? Nothing ever happens. Something always ALMOST happens - which explains why Europeans like it and most Americans just snort in derision. Comments ()
Zyme
- #3.1 - 2009-06-27 15:22 - (Reply)
Yes it is a game involving much patience. But due to this it also has what a good story needs - ups and downs regarding tension - phases with virtually nothing happening, and phases in which the spectators are in full agony, either hoping for the final blow or fully scared. Comments ()
Don S
- #4 - 2009-06-28 15:59 - (Reply)
I'm torn on this issue. Living in the UK I'm more aware than most americans of futbol, as it's the primary ntional sport in Englnd, and English club teams excel in the Champion's league. Yet, most Premiership action can be described as more boring than watching paint dry. The best club tems in Europe (Real Madrid, Man United, Barcelona, and the other top teams in Serie A (Italy) and the UK tend to stay on top year after year. The single exception among the major European futbol leagues seems to be the German league. Comments ()
Don S
- #5 - 2009-06-28 16:15 - (Reply)
The US appearing in the Confederations final is something of a fluke but not as huge a fluke as first appears. They lot 3-1 to Italy, but only after a huge red card which most observers believed should have been a yellow. That meant they were playing a man short most of the game. Nevertheless the US took the lead early in that game. Had the penalty been a yellow card, it is easy to visualize a close game, perhaps a US win or likely a draw. Comments ()
Zyme
- #5.1 - 2009-06-28 17:46 - (Reply)
I wouldn't count Greece among the mid-rank soccer powers, the stunt they pulled off 2004 was legendary for its luck. It has to happen once in a century, and it happened there. With those kind of tactics, you are doomed. That is why they haven't had any successes afterwards. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #6 - 2009-06-28 21:01 - (Reply)
These last few posts are probably exactly why Americans are bemused by soccer. Start with a serious discussion on sports exceptionalism and you end up talking about Greece's one in a million chances for some cup win somewhere before hell freezes over. No thanks! Comments ()
Don S
- #6.1 - 2009-06-29 11:09 - (Reply)
Pat, you're being parochial. Americans mostly don't grok international competitions very well, with the exceptions being the Olympics and the Tour de France when Lance Armstrong and other Americans were on top. Comments ()
Don S
- #7 - 2009-06-28 21:14 - (Reply)
Pat, if this keeps up they'll be shouting USA, USA like they did in Lake Placid. Comments ()
Zyme
- #7.1 - 2009-06-28 22:41 - (Reply)
Kudos to the American team - performing very well against a Brazilian team that in the second half put the pressure we were all expecting for the entire match. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #7.2 - 2009-06-29 04:45 - (Reply)
Are you sure you didn't hear people chanting "RSA, RSA?" The fourteen Americans in the stands were probably either consular staff or peons from some NGO trying to disquise themselves as Brazilians. Comments ()
Zyme
- #8 - 2009-06-28 21:23 - (Reply)
Yes the current state of the match is amazing - but god can they turn these freaking Vuvuzelas off? Comments ()
Zyme
- #9.1 - 2009-06-28 22:13 - (Reply)
Apropos sport, ultimate fighting has arrived here in Germany a few days ago. Is it true that it has been highly controversial in the US a mere decade ago, while it now even surpasses boxing in popularity? That is what the news agencies want us to believe here :) Comments ()
Pamela
- #9.1.1 - 2009-06-29 11:17 - (Reply)
No Zyme, they're wrong. I remember a few years ago when they tried to put it on cable TV. People were disgusted enough that they gave up on it. I don't think you could find a broadcast of it now on a bet. Comments ()
Zyme
- #9.1.1.1 - 2009-06-29 15:13 - (Reply)
Strange, but as always, it seems useful not to fully trust what is broadcasted everywhere. Comments ()
Don S
- #10 - 2009-06-29 11:20 - (Reply)
Zyme, ultimate fighting started out as more or less 'anything goes' and drew heavy criticism for that. It has reformed and laid down stricter rules and has been sanctioned (regulated) by state athletic commissions (much as boxing is in the US). After having been dropped from cable TV because of it's brutality it has now returned to relative respectability. Comments ()
Zyme
- #10.1 - 2009-06-29 15:14 - (Reply)
Yes these days boxing can really be mixed up with dancing sometimes.. Comments ()
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