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Thursday, March 25. 2010Germany is the New Bad BoyPosted by Joerg Wolf in European Issues, International Economics on Thursday, March 25. 2010 I am quite excited that Germany participates in the Eurovision Song Contest with an original, charming and funny artist, who can actually sing and is a bit crazy and therefore represents the new Germany very well. Lena Meyer-Landrut will perform the song Satellite at the Eurovision Song Contest, which was written by an American-Danish duo. Although for the first time in years, Germany deserves "douze points," I don't think Lena Meyer-Landrut will get them from the other European countries. Animosities against Germany are too strong. Most Europeans have stronger emotional ties to other countries. And Germany's current economic and fiscal policies make us the new bad boy. The NY Times writes "Germany Begins to Shed Its Role as E.U. Integrator":
I guess, we act now like a "normal" country. Well, so be it! Germany's previously strong monetary and political support for EU integration did not make us popular enough to win the Eurovision Song Contest either. It just paved the way for German unification, but we got that now and have to focus on bigger national interests, like the Eurovision Song Contest and the Soccer World Cup. My statements to the Russian English language TV station Russia Today probably cost us a few votes from Greek's Eurovision Song Contest community as well. The 10 minutes live interview took place last Friday. The video clip is from a weekly round-up and mentions just a few short statements of mine:
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Joerg Wolf
- #1 - 2010-03-25 19:48 - (Reply)
Super necessary warning: The above post contained sarcasm and hyperbole. If you don't get the humor, then my Germanness is to blame. ;-) Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #1.1 - 2010-03-25 23:14 - (Reply)
I guess individual guilt is much better than collective guilt! Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #2 - 2010-03-26 01:40 - (Reply)
‘We have had 10 years of the euro. What has happened is proof that this is not working.” Comments ()
Joerg Wolf
- #2.1 - 2010-03-26 09:18 - (Reply)
Greece should not buy any German or US or any arms. And Germany should not sell some either. Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #2.1.1 - 2010-03-26 18:25 - (Reply)
Greece should probably do whatever it thinks is germaine. A quick look at the map shows a Greece with open waters on profitable smuggling routes, abutting a still sketchy Balkans region, and a constitutionally volatile Turkey. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #2.1.2 - 2010-03-26 23:56 - (Reply)
"No wonder Greece is bankrupt and wants Germany to bail it out" Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #2.1.2.1.1 - 2010-03-27 12:54 - (Reply)
I guess that would make the Louisiana Purchase racist as well. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #2.1.2.1.1.1 - 2010-03-27 22:19 - (Reply)
Paterson, no, but I suspect that your usual bias for the French would make it look like so ! Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #2.1.2.1.2 - 2010-03-27 22:11 - (Reply)
ach ya, "racism" ain't fashionable in your country anymore, though its roots haven't changed, superiority arrogance ! Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #2.1.2.1.2.1 - 2010-03-27 23:17 - (Reply)
How is the tit for tat commentary between Greece and Germany racist? Jefferson may have been a Francophile but he also sent money and agents to Toussaint L'Overture as well as sending three frigates to the Caribbean to keep further French reinforcements out of Haiti. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #2.1.2.1.2.1.1 - 2010-03-28 01:41 - (Reply)
then it was the duplicity of the American policy, that is still on nowadays, one with the appearance of morality, one behind the curtains that always looks for americans'interests ! Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #2.1.2.1.2.1.1.1 - 2010-03-28 03:06 - (Reply)
How exactly was a slave revolt in Haiti in American interests? Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #2.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-28 03:14 - (Reply)
don't make the innocent, Jefferson had a plantation in Virginia with a huge number of slaves, and feared that Haiti revolt could inspire them too ! Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #2.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-28 03:43 - (Reply)
So then why the did he help Toussaint L'Overture? Plus I have noticed that you haven't answered the original question placed by Joerg so I'll just conclude. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #2.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-28 03:53 - (Reply)
I don't care of your conclusions, they only reflect your difficulty to be "liked" ! Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #2.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-28 05:05 - (Reply)
Conclude means end. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #2.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-28 05:30 - (Reply)
"conclude" for you means having the last word ! Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #2.1.3 - 2010-04-15 00:17 - (Reply)
What if they have no choice? Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #3 - 2010-03-26 11:30 - (Reply)
Greece is not in trouble because of its defense spending but rather from a huge crushing social welfare system put in place to counter some of the subversion of the communists during the Greek Civil War. Plus much of the Greek spending on defense, aside from its air and armour assets are native Greek industries often under license from the Belgian FLN. Comments ()
Joerg Wolf
- #3.1 - 2010-03-26 11:43 - (Reply)
Yes, but it would help everyone, if they would reduce their defense spending. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #3.1.1 - 2010-03-26 14:37 - (Reply)
Considering that almost 20% of the IMF is from the US we therefore have "volunteered" to help bail out Greece. Comments ()
Joerg Wolf
- #3.1.1.1 - 2010-03-26 14:41 - (Reply)
Well, US investment banks did shady deals with Greece as well, no? Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #3.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-26 15:37 - (Reply)
Good point on the Eurozone reluctance to US involvement. But the debt of Greece has been held by bondholders and mostly Greek banks since 2005. It would seem that instead of blaming Goldman Sachs for everything, including Original Sin, that the first pound of flesh should come from the Greek banks that are now reasonably expecting to now hold IMF/Eurozone guaranteed paper. Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #4 - 2010-03-26 18:07 - (Reply)
Be careful with RT, it's a rather underhanded operation that's owned by the state. Comments ()
Pamela
- #4.1 - 2010-03-26 18:26 - (Reply)
I LOVE RT! I used to be able to receive it via our cable service but it disappeared (now we get Al Jazeera - go figure). Their website is interesting, also. Of course there's propaganda there, but not all of it and what there is of it is - to me, at least, very obvious. Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #4.1.1 - 2010-03-29 18:57 - (Reply)
If you aren't too deep in the wilds of NoVA, you can pick it up over the air on MHZ's 10 channel propaganda [url=http://www.mhznetworks.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Itemid=62]cluster[/url] which [url=http://www.mhznetworks.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=91]includes[/url] France24, Euronews, RT, Al-Jiz, NHK, and a feed that runs tacky Vietnamese game shows. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #4.1.1.1 - 2010-03-29 19:50 - (Reply)
funny, no american channels , only french and arabs !!! Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #4.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-29 20:02 - (Reply)
Did I say -I relied on it?- No. I said that these were state-run operations. They are entertainingly mockable, if anything, and I don't wrire for Pajamas Media as you imply. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #4.1.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-29 22:19 - (Reply)
Joe, I'm not angry, I just find you ridicule with your anti-french obsession Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #4.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-29 23:45 - (Reply)
In case you haven't been able to understand it at this point, it is called "tit-for-tat", and it's an effort to balance out the unfounded degradation of the US that is taken to be a home truth in mainstream European communications. I am not even a drop in the bucket compared to the baiting and accusitory nature of your own society's politicians, "intellectuals", and tedious cultural figures. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-30 06:33 - (Reply)
you are of the sort of persons in America that like to entertain this grievance, that especially french people hate the poor ol Americans, though from my experience of the net, I have been reading much more hateful words towards us from your side, though you're a peculiar specimen of the americanism, in that sense that you keep on being so bitter when the very people of America reversed to a normal appreciation of our bilateral relations since Sarkozy was elected, and your business bed is an old hate towards France, sorry, I wasn't born during Lebanon protectorate, besides I have many Lebanese friends ! Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-30 14:03 - (Reply)
I never say "poor Americans", I make not of what is plainly visible across Europe. So, for the sake of your feelings, you want people to say nothing, then? Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-30 20:43 - (Reply)
"suspicious sources" ? olright CIA is sooooo suspected ! Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-30 21:14 - (Reply)
Because under your Pseudo, you put in dozens of comments, some just cut-and-pasted from neo-nazi revisionist sites, and you citing as an explanation to the present economy, an inflamatory screed written in teh 70's meant not to explain the Federal Reserve system, but say that it was "run by Jews for their benefit". Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-31 04:19 - (Reply)
"Because under your Pseudo, you put in dozens of comments", no, just replies to your insane fellows comments Comments ()
John in Michigan, US
- #4.2 - 2010-03-30 19:14 - (Reply)
The American accent of the RT talking head jumped out at me right away. Russia wants to be seen as part of Europe, but it uses an American accent for its primary, English-language outlet? Very strange. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #5 - 2010-03-28 05:37 - (Reply)
Now that the information is more readily available on this IMF loan it becomes obvious that Greece is simply not going to make the cuts neccessary to reduce its deficit, debt or the public sector. It seems perfectly reasonable for Germans to object to Greece borrowing money to maintain its current spending without seriously attempting to reduce its spending. Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #6 - 2010-03-29 18:48 - (Reply)
In case you haven't figured it out yet, the cause of the venom directed at Germany is quite simple: they are a success at something, navigate through life without the overwhelming tension of revolutionary movements and mob rule... of course the usual haterz will be on you! Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #6.1 - 2010-03-29 19:53 - (Reply)
sure, that your opinion is fair ! you don't even know on what were based the arguties, cuz your sources are nuts ! Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #6.1.1 - 2010-03-30 21:23 - (Reply)
Actually, if you think I don't, why don't you tell me. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #6.1.1.1 - 2010-03-31 19:34 - (Reply)
that's funny, even one of your venerred economists hasn't your view Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #6.1.1.1.1 - 2010-03-31 19:43 - (Reply)
Who placed that poor man in a suit of decorative wood anyway? Is he an Ent writing for the English? Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #6.1.1.1.2 - 2010-04-01 00:15 - (Reply)
So judging by that link, you think that France should be able to "go it alone", but think all Germans racist if they do not fund Greece's bloated public sector, is it? Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #6.1.1.1.2.1 - 2010-04-01 18:06 - (Reply)
"Any form of dialogue with you is ridiculous, becasue it is entirely about you and your tender ego." Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #6.1.1.1.2.1.1 - 2010-04-02 03:36 - (Reply)
I thought it was because you said a comment by Joerg was racist then refused either to explain your remarks or apologize to Joerg? Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #6.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 - 2010-04-03 21:21 - (Reply)
bof ! you're on an easy stalking path, I noticed though that you are very discret on Belmont's LMAO Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #6.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 - 2010-04-04 00:01 - (Reply)
And I notice that you still have not either explained or repudiated your statement that Joerg made a racist comment? Let's take care of what you actually said and not what I did not say at all. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #6.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2010-04-04 05:39 - (Reply)
But last time I checked Greeks and Germans were, even under the old racial identification systems, considered Caucasian. And saying "..he did" is really not a serious response unless trying to find out how stole the marbles. Comments ()
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