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Thursday, November 17. 2005The struggle for the rule of law: Guantanamo and torturePosted by Joerg Wolf in US Domestic and Cultural Issues on Thursday, November 17. 2005 Torture and indefinite detention without trial at Guantanamo have been hot topics in Washington in recent weeks. Senator McCain wants to categorically ban torture, while Vice President Cheney wants to give the CIA the right to torture. The Senate is looking for a compromise, writes the Washington Post:
Following is a list of the many different decisions made by the Supreme Court, federal courts and the Senate concerning the application of the law to terrorist suspects as well as appeals by three Republican Senators for defending liberal values in the war on terrorism and suggesting that Guantanamo should be closed based on a the cost-benefit analysis. The struggle for the rule of law intensified, when the Supreme Court ruled that the government may hold terrorist suspects in Guantanamo without trial, but there must be judicial oversight, i.e. all detainees have the right to challenge their detention in a U.S. court on the basis of habeas corpus (wrongful imprisonment). Consequently the lawyers of many Guantanamo detainees went to the federal courts to appeal the decisions of the military tribunals. The federal courts ruled in favor of many detainees, like Murat Kurnaz. The administration then went to the Court of Appeals.
NOVEMBER 10TH, 2005: SENATE VOTES AGAINST ACCESS TO FEDERAL COURTS The Senate did not want to wait for the ruling of the Court of Appeals and voted 49 to 42 for the Graham Amendment that would undermine the habeas corpus principle and the previous Supreme Court ruling concerning judicial oversight. 350 law professors oppose the amendment and argue This Amendment, as currently drafted, seeks to eliminate existing habeas corpus jurisdiction over petitions now pending as well as those to be filed by detainees at Guantánamo Bay. We write because we believe this course of action unwise and contrary to the most fundamental precepts of American constitutional traditions. (…) The Graham Amendment would dramatically erode our core constitutional commitment to separation of powers. The Amendment consigns the protection of fundamental human liberties to unilateral executive determination under which the Executive chooses the prisoners, chooses the charges, chooses the judges, chooses the punishment – and cuts off judicial review of its determinations. We should not forget the Framers' insight, expressed so eloquently by James Madison in the 47th Federalist Paper, that the "accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands … may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."
While these law professors quote James Madison, British journalist Andres Sullivan referrs to Winston Churchill's similarly strong words during World War II:
Robert Novak, however, writes in the Conservative Voice:
Hat tip to Obsidian Wings. TalkLeft links to seventeen myths and distortions about the Graham amendment, collected and countered by The Center for Constitutional Rights.
More information about the recent Graham amendment in German: die tageszeitung More info and commentary in English at Beautiful Horizons, Balkin, DeepBlade, SCOTUS blog, Simply Appalling. NOVEMBER 15TH, 2005: COMPROMISE Less than a week after passing the Graham amendment, the Senate voted 84-14 for the revised Graham amendment, now known as the Graham/Levin amendment, to restrict court review of the U.S. military's dealings with detainees. According to the Associated Press:
THE DEBATE ON TORTURE AND LIBERALL VALUES IN THE WAR ON TERRORISM The amendments concerning the Guantanamo prisoners' right to challenge their detention in federal court are seen as attempts to "soften the administration's ardent opposition to McCain's anti-torture provision," writes the Washington Post.
However, Republican Senator Chuck Hagel said:
Republican Senator John McCain defended his amendment by saying "It's not about who they are. It's about who we are." This is not about sympathy with the Guantanamo detainees. When the US violates its own values, it can't lead the free world. Guantanamo has unfortunately defined the US image to a large extent, alienated many long-time allies, and helped the terrorists to recruit new followers. Republican Senator Mel Martinez did a cost-benefit analysis of Guantanamo in June and suggests that the Bush administration should consider closing Guantanamo:
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Gregory Kelly
- #1 - 2005-11-17 14:04 - (Reply)
Sen. McCain former POW in Vietnam is correct. One if we treat prisoners or "enemy combatants" according to the rule of law we can then expect our prisoners to be treated the same and if they are not then we hold the moral high ground in prosecution of crimes. Comments ()
Thomas
- #2 - 2005-11-18 10:45 - (Reply)
I agree. Timothy Garton Ash, a UK prof of history, wrote: Comments ()
Wong Online PoKér Hu
- #3 - 2005-11-28 04:10 - (Reply)
I don't agree with using torture as a way of interrogating people. some would endlessly reason out that in order to extract information, this method should be used. I completely disagree with this since yit's inhumane. Comments ()
steve
- #4 - 2005-11-29 23:10 - (Reply)
The precedent of allowing enemy combatants captured on foreign soil access to the US court system is dangerous in the extreme. There are two possiblities: Comments ()
Martin Hermann
- #5 - 2005-12-03 02:57 - (Reply)
Rumsfeld and Pace press conference: Comments ()
joe
- #6 - 2005-12-15 03:43 - (Reply)
Would any of you please like to define torture as you are currently using it? Comments ()
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