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Sunday, October 8. 2006Iraq: Polling, Reporting, Planning, and LearningPosted by Joerg Wolf in US Foreign Policy on Sunday, October 8. 2006
• Polls: The public diplomacy blog Eccentric Star quotes an AP report about Iraqi views of their country's future, including this:
About six in 10 Iraqis say they approve of attacks on U.S.-led forces, and slightly more than that want their government to ask U.S. troops to leave within a year, according to a poll in that country. The Iraqis also have negative views of Osama bin Laden, according to the early September poll of 1,150. The poll, done for University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes, [full report] also found: Almost four in five Iraqis say the U.S. military force in Iraq provokes more violence than it prevents.¡No Pasarán! writes about several more positive Iraqi polls that are worth reporting, but do not get enough coverage. • Edit Copy has interviewed Borzou Daragahi, the Baghdad bureau chief for the Los Angeles Times. Borzou was a nominated finalist for a 2005 Pulitzer Prize "for his vivid, deeply reported stories on the impact of the Iraq war on citizens and soldiers alike." In a separate post Edit Copy quotes an email from an American officer in Iraq: Every day is a nasty gun battle. They blast us with giant bombs in the road, snipers, mortars and small arms. We blast them with tanks, attack helicopters, artillery, our snipers (much better than theirs), and every weapon that an infantryman can carry. Every day. Incredibly, I rarely see Ramadi in the news. We have as many attacks out here in the west as Baghdad. Yet, Baghdad has 7 million people, we have just 1.2 million. Per capita, al-Anbar province is the most violent place in Iraq by several orders of magnitude. (...)He continues to describes the "Bravest Guy in al-Anbar Province, Biggest Mystery, Coolest Insurgent Act, Highest Unit Re-enlistment Rate, Most Surprising Thing I Don't Miss, Biggest Hassle, Best Chuck Norris Moment" etc. Quotes from and discussion about the email and about the presumed author at Edit Copy. Two more links we did not get around to linking earlier: • The Washington Post wrote on September 8th: Long before the United States invaded Iraq in 2003, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld forbade military strategists to develop plans for securing a postwar Iraq, the retiring commander of the Army Transportation Corps said. Brig. Gen. Mark E. Scheid told the Newport News Daily Press in an interview published yesterday that Rumsfeld had said "he would fire the next person" who talked about the need for a postwar plan. Scheid was a colonel with the U.S. Central Command, the unit that oversees military operations in the Middle East, in late 2001 when Rumsfeld "told us to get ready for Iraq."Another general who joined the ranks of other war critics as reported in Ret. General Zinni on Iraq: "Ten years worth of planning were thrown away" and Are the revolting ret. generals feeling guilty? • FOXNews' Bill O’Reilly has learned something in May 2006: The chaos in Afghanistan and Iraq will never end, because there will always be people who hate Americans. And we are an occupying force in those countries. (...) But Iraq should be a lesson learned. We cannot ever again put American boots on the ground in a hostile Arab country. Iraq was an optional war. There will always be or there were other ways, I should say, of removing Saddam. That being said, the John Murtha solution of cutting and running would lead to greater conflicts down the road, as Iran would dominate the Gulf.And then he moved on to show Halle Berry do a cartwheel. Likewise Newsweek's US edition recently had Annie Leibovitz's "Amazing Life in Pictures" on the cover, while Newsweek's international editions had "Losing Afghanistan" on the cover. Trackbacks
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Chris
- #1 - 2006-10-08 19:18 - (Reply)
Interesting points. Thanks for the link. Comments ()
Assistant Village Idiot
- #2 - 2006-10-08 19:41 - (Reply)
Yes, Americans have heard rumors that some people think this is not working. We are also aware of intelligent observers who claim that it is. The MSM in America covers many of the former, some of the later. In Germany, are people exposed to the latter at all? I have only anecdotes and impressions, but my sense is that the press and the intellectual discussion in Germany revolves around how it's obviously not working and how the stubborn Americans refuse to see that. Are voices assessing that there is victory heard in Germany? Comments ()
JW-Atlantic Review
- #2.1 - 2006-10-08 20:42 - (Reply)
"Are voices assessing that there is victory heard in Germany?" Comments ()
Assistant Village Idiot
- #3 - 2006-10-08 23:19 - (Reply)
Thank you, Joerg. We also have a similar focus on the negative here, independent of political persuasion. It is also something of an explanation and a comfort to hear that Germans are pessimistic and criticise everything. That certainly gives criticism of the US some context, because usually all we ever hear about Germans is when they are criticising us. To know that they see their role as sounding a warning cry about many things is a role I can understand and accept. Frankly, I thought Americans were singled out for criticism until I saw your explanation. Comments ()
JW-Atlantic Review
- #3.1 - 2006-10-09 00:51 - (Reply)
Yep! Comments ()
Don
- #3.1.1 - 2006-10-09 16:08 - (Reply)
Hell, Joerg, the coverage of Abu Ghraib is much greater than that - of Abu Ghraib! Comments ()
fredouil
- #4 - 2006-10-09 03:54 - (Reply)
"... The magnitude of Darfur is so much bigger, obviously." Comments ()
JW-Atlantic Review
- #4.1 - 2006-10-09 10:18 - (Reply)
You are a great humanist! Comments ()
Don
- #4.1.1 - 2006-10-09 16:46 - (Reply)
Fredouil is being bitter, but I think he has a point. Actions speak louder than words, Joerg. So where are the actions? Comments ()
JW-Atlantic Review
- #4.2 - 2006-10-09 10:32 - (Reply)
@fredouil Comments ()
Olaf Petersen
- #5 - 2006-10-09 07:03 - (Reply)
Maybe an explanation too simple: In the spheres of free speech people and media rather focus on affairs they can influence than on those out of range. Be it the War on Terrorism or the global warming and ecopolicies: Pointing at this or that nation and saying "But they are doing it!" is no excuse for not doing the right thing. What goes wrong, will go worse. There are many problems we are directly responsible for and we really should put them in first place. Comments ()
Anonymous
- #6 - 2006-10-09 11:28 - (Reply)
http://www.vanityfair.com/features/general/061004fege01 Comments ()
Assistant Village Idiot
- #7 - 2006-10-10 00:22 - (Reply)
Olaf, I agree that criticism tends to focus on the people one can influence rather than those who pay not heed. But the long term consequence of that is that the receivers of information lose perspective. Is it not true that many in Europe consider America more dangerous to world peace than the NoKos and Irans of the world? Comments ()
JW-Atlantic Review
- #8 - 2006-10-11 00:21 - (Reply)
@ Assistant Village Idiot (comment #3) Comments ()
Anonymous
- #10 - 2006-10-11 11:56 - (Reply)
Favorite quote from that email from Iraq cited by Edit Copy: Comments ()
Don
- #11 - 2006-10-11 22:00 - (Reply)
"The chaos in Afghanistan and Iraq will never end, because there will always be people who hate Americans." Comments ()
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