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Tuesday, April 10. 2007Schadenfreude? How the Smearing of Iraq War Critics Has ChangedPosted by Joerg Wolf in Transatlantic Relations on Tuesday, April 10. 2007
"Monday marked the fourth anniversary of the fall of Saddam Hussein. But instead of celebrations, the tone in Iraq was set by angry anti-American protests," writes Spiegel International and then translates several German editorials on this subject.
None of the editorials has any Schadenfreude. Die Welt for instance points out that "the dissolution of the Iraqi army and of the structures of the ruling Baath party was too hurried and in retrospect counter-productive," but also stresses "all of this is easily said four years later. At the same time, nobody has a blueprint for the new Iraq, which consists ethnically and religiously of three parts and which only achieved a forced unity under Saddam's iron rule. ..." Still, some supporters of the Iraq war perceive a lot of Schadenfreude in the media. Why? Shaun Carney, associate editor of the Australian paper The Age, describes in his opinion piece Who'd gloat about it? how critics of the Iraq war have been given different labels by the war advocates in recent years. Before the Iraq war started, skeptics were compared with "appeasers of Hitler in the '30s" (or labeled as weasels, cowards, surrender monkeys, one might add). According to Carney, this phase was followed by the immediate post-invasion demands for all sceptics to apologise because the defeat of Saddam had taken only a few weeks and the 2004-05 insistence that occupied Iraq was really a good news story that a twisted media refused to report. The latest mantra, now that it's clear the whole enterprise is a frightening mess, is: stop gloating.Pretty popular in US blogs and newspapers is also to use the German word "Schadenfreude" to describe this alleged gloating: • James Taranto writes in the Wall Street Journal blog about the "Iraqschadenfreudegruppe," but his only "evidence" is a quote from Karsten Voigt, the German government's coordinator on relations with the U.S. in response to the Iraq Study Group report: "We should be happy that there is a course correction in the United States." as well from Andreas Schockenhoff, a deputy leader of Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservatives in parliament, who "warned" the U.S. against thinking there are "obligations for other NATO partners" from a withdrawal. Mr. Taranto does not explain why he considers this to be Schadenfreude. Instead he complains about Germany's alleged "freeloading off American strength" and wonders "why in the world would they be pleased at the prospect of American retreat from Iraq?" Well, I wonder, why in the world would someone from the respected Wall Street Journal misinterprets the above politicians in such a way... Schadenfreude is a German word, but it does not mean we are full of it. Predictably, Davids Medienkritik, has approvingly linked to the Wall Street Journal. Fortunately, they did not delete a comment by Amelie de Saintronges, which the James Taranto should read: Schadenfreude is something you feel when you are happy about the misfortune of somebody else. It is not Schadenfreude when you are happy that somebody finally tries to correct a (perceived) error you told him about time ago. There maybe a certain "toldya so" factor to it but it's not Schadenfreude. Schadenfreude would be stupid since U.S. failure in Iraq would not be to the advantage of Germany, quite the contrary. A "failed state" of Iraq does not help anybody, not even trade. A Middle East in chaos does not inspire Schadenfreude to anyone.• Likewise, Washington Post columnist Anne Applebaum complains about gloating from "Old Europe," after the publication of the Iraq Study group report. Fortunately, many Washington Post readers criticized her column. According to SuperFrenchie's count "out of almost 150 comments, just 8 of them were some sort of Euro-bashing, and none of them was true French-bashing, despite the easy opportunity. The other 140 comments were bashing… Anne Applebaum!" SuperFrenchie, a blog about "adventures in French-bashing America," has written an excellent criticism of Ms. Applebaum's column. In the debate in his comments section, SuperFrenchie discusses the difference between gloating and "I told you so" and makes this statement: My feeling is that there isn't much gloating because the European media is simply not used to gloat about much. They are used to criticize heavily, whether it's American policies or European policies or French policies. Cheerleading media, as exists here (Fox, NY Post, etc…), doesn't really exist in Europe. They have their opinions, but they don't cheerlead. Trackbacks
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Zyme
- #1 - 2007-04-11 01:24 - (Reply)
If the usage of "Schadenfreude" in the anglo-saxon media proves anything, it would have to be a decisive weakness of the english language. Comments ()
Delfynn
- #1.1 - 2007-04-19 16:18 - (Reply)
I think, it is time to replace design of a site, clause good, but sometimes it is necessary to change color schemes for attraction of new visitors. Comments ()
David
- #2 - 2007-04-11 01:33 - (Reply)
Your mention of the Bush-blog Davids Medienkritik reminds me to ask: Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #3 - 2007-04-11 01:59 - (Reply)
What is the point of an ad hominem attack on Ray D.? Is it now a requirement that to post on anti-American attitudes, both real and imagined, that one must have enlisted? Enlisted in what? Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #3.1 - 2007-04-11 02:08 - (Reply)
Plus the idea that Ray D. is a tool of the Bush conspiracy might want to follow this link. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #3.1.1 - 2007-04-11 07:17 - (Reply)
Then again maybe not! That link is to the wrong article, oh well! Comments ()
Axel
- #3.2 - 2007-04-11 10:35 - (Reply)
I wouldn't call it an ad hominem attack. When it comes to moral principles and military adventures it's a reliable criterion for identifying boasters and their "Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori" cheap propaganda. Comments ()
Don S
- #3.2.1 - 2007-04-11 13:08 - (Reply)
""Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori" cheap propaganda." Comments ()
Axel
- #3.2.1.1 - 2007-04-12 13:34 - (Reply)
Don, Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #3.2.1.1.1 - 2007-04-13 01:08 - (Reply)
I'm not to sure how to respond except to point out that recruiting for both the Regular Army and the Reseves, and its components, is at 105% of it goals so far this year and was 106% for 2006. Plus the M-4 is a stopgap, until the advanced combat rifle is issued in the near future, it is not a new weapon but rather a shortened barrel M-16 and it is certainly not in short supply as it is being shipped to those units that fight out of Bradleys and Strykers. It has not been issued to security, support or civil affairs units. Comments ()
David
- #3.3 - 2007-04-13 01:48 - (Reply)
Just pointing out the physical cowardice of the right-wing war supporters like RayD. Add to that the moral cowardice of his blog: RayD and his partner delete and ban comments from Bush critics, while allowing racist comments to stand. This, however, is common practice of the right-wing blogs such as Michelle Malkin, LittleGreenFootballs, Politically Incorrect, etc.... Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #4 - 2007-04-11 13:25 - (Reply)
Odd to refer to a man who lied under oath, spent the war safely in the Hollywood Hills and made sure that he was paid in Swiss francs by the East Germans. Also an ad hominem attack. Comments ()
mbast
- #5 - 2007-04-11 16:52 - (Reply)
Well, ad hominem or not, gloating or not, facts are facts. Iraq is a failure and must be dealt with in some way. Whether that way will be military or civilian, American, European or generally international is a matter of opinion, but pointing a finger at the European media and accusing them of gloating will get us nowhere, just as a "we told you so" from the Europeans won't help. Comments ()
JW-Atlantic Review
- #5.1 - 2007-04-11 23:57 - (Reply)
What would be the solution? Comments ()
mbast
- #5.1.1 - 2007-04-12 00:53 - (Reply)
"What would be the solution?" Comments ()
2020
- #6 - 2007-04-11 17:15 - (Reply)
"Do not be hasty because your disappointments will be huge...You will reap nothing from this aggressive war, which you launched on Iraq, except for disgrace and defeat." Comments ()
Zyme
- #7 - 2007-04-12 12:45 - (Reply)
At good step towards solving the problems would be to collect the data needed to create a digital map of Iraq that can be constantly updated. A map showing in different colors the sectors with high crime and violence rating and those that have established order and public security. Comments ()
randy
- #8 - 2008-04-06 09:07 - (Reply)
Sitting in the Crown room at Frankfurt Airport. I spent my day yesterday walking around the forest behind the hotel. I found out it was a US Army garrison many years ago. There is absolutely no marker to mention this. I have come here many times and as of late my opinion of the German people is that they are a nation lacking purpose, a goal which drives them forward. Its a great place, mind you, but no visible drive other than eco-self flagellation. They are very critical of the US yet have a short memory of what put them where they are today. Sort of like a spoiled suburban child. Comments ()
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