Yes, which reminds to ask why the occupiers of east-Prussia, Schlesia and Alsace-Lorraine don't have to give that land back?

I don't know about Cohen, but Rosenthal is certainly right. Responsibility was never owned. It was all dumped on the Nazis.

The Solution of Caiaphas. Germany's repentance was to point the finger at a small segment of their society and say, "They did it. They are the ones to blame. We are innocent." And the political left just capitalized on it to tar their political opponents. And what do you suppose anti-Americanism is if not a way to say, "See those Americans are just as bad as we were." Bizarre.

You should see through our eyes when some aged German, Pole, or Austrian interviewed still tries to mock us with the line that they didn't know what was going on in the death camp 100 yards upwind. It's a joke over here.

It has been abundantly proven that it happened because people went along with it, because they became as stupid and brutish as necessary to unknow what was going on, because they cashed in on the spoils, because they looked the other way, and because they liked feeling inherently superior to another kind of people = nationalism.

The behavior of the bystanders was disgusting. That's why Eisenhaur was so furious he marched them through the camps to force them to look at what they'd done. Only then did they suddenly find their lost sense of shame. Momentarilly.

And it wasn't just the Germans. In every occupied country people stood by and did nothing but gain from the Holocaust. Originally, the Nazis pleaded with the Vichy French and the Slovaks not to ship them the Jewish women and children too. But the Slovaks (head of state a Catholic priest at the time) wanted their property so much that they paid Germany to take them. Correction, only in some of the Scandinavian countries did a significant number of people try to save Jews instead of turn them in for a pat on the back and a cut of spoils.

The stink of that still has not dissipated. It must be owned before it can be dealt with the legimate and effective and wholesome way.

You can't smear it off on another people. By remaining in denial you just repress the shame and guilt, you don't get rid of it. And it keeps driving your behavior. To smear off on America and to make a virtue of being a bystander who STILL looks the other way while people are massecered by the million, pretending to do so in the name of peace and love. Yuck.

If only European society could own it, and then move on. Europeans would soon know the joy of life again, because they would see that they aren't like that anymore and have reformed.

But I doubt it will ever happen. I don't think anyone ever faces having done something like that.

No, I mean what I said. It was the high priest Caiaphas' idea that one man should die for the sin of the whole people. Economical solution. That's why they went to Pilate. They were throwing a scrap to the dog who was about to release the soldiers on the whole city. They blamed Jesus for the unrest. I'm an atheist and I know that. What's your excuse?

That ain't what Rosenthal said. I reject your straw man.

If Germans (and other Europeans) had faced it, they wouldn't still feel the need to keep smearing off that guilt on the Great Scapegoat. Who do you Germans think you're fooling? You prance around like the Emperor in his new clothes, sure that nobody can see that your accusations against us are projection. All projection. Not that we have no faults. You just don't see them. It's YOUR faults you see in us.

The same with all the bystanders - your parents and grandparents and even you if you're old enough. Own it. Weep for it. Make what amends you can. It's called repentance, and you dodn't even need to believe in a God to cure yourself this way.

But if you Euros keep trying to cheat by continuing to smear and smear smear it off instead, to tar the shiny spot on the nation that put you to shame, then you'lll never get over it.

And then of course, national character assassination of "the Americans" adds more guilt that needs to be smeared off.

So it's a vicious cycle.

Deal with it already. Face it. Your parents, your grandparents. And you if you're old enmough. Deal with what you did so that you can be free of it already.

Because the way you are trying to cheat is making you crazy.

Don't put words in my mouth.

What makes you think I give a rodent's behind about whether you agree with my "theory" or not?

You assume a lot.

What makes you think I must publish a freakin' thesis here to justify what I think?

I just told you what I think. Reread that last sentence carefully.

That's the point: that's what I think. How do you like what I think about Germans and Europeans?

I think German and European anti-Americanism is pure, unadulterated bigotry and projection - accusing us of your flaws to smear them off.

That's what I think. How do you like me thinking that about Europeans?

Maybe Europeans had better change their ways to make me think the better of them, no?

If not, then why do you think that Americans should react to European bashing of us by trying to make Euros think well of us?

It doesn't work that way, does it, duh?

Moving on, you are absolutely correct that projection of shame for the Holocaust doesn't tell the whole story. There's much more to it.

The most important other part is how the politics of the Left have been exploiting that shame for purely political purposes. Successfully. Anything to denigrate capitalism (and by association, their political opponents). The European socialist "ruling class" is actually the most to blame, because they have plagued Germans with never-ending guilt trip over WWII and the Holocaust to prime them for projection and then they sic them on America through the anti-Americanism they broadcast.

Get it? Prime people with a need to smear off and then point at a target for them to smear off on. Typical socialist tactics.

But that's another long story.

And then there's the story of Europe's chief export to the world - anti-Americanism. For decades. A never-ending daily barage of it to every corner of the planet, especially the Middle East, in dozens of languages.

And then there's just plain envy in other parts of the world. yes envy. Not a rare motive for what people think and say about others, but a common one. Europe's socialist political class exploits that too.

I don't care if you are convinced. I wasn't trying to convince you.

But I will say that your logic is flawed. You say that just because my "theory" doesn't explain every act of anti-Americanism that it is flawed. Try thinking straight on that.

Who demanded an apology? Read again. You read an awful lot of invisible ink.

Documentary after documentary comes out with people (Europeans from every occupied country as well as Germany) still denying (even when confronted with written proof that they turned a neighbor in for the price of his property) that they don't know how those records got there and that they didn't know what was going on.

It's the same ol same old "I see nothing. I hear nothing. I know nothing." A joke over here.

Europeans need to get out of denial, in which they blame other people, Nazis only, and face the facts about the bystanders. Is that saying it clear enough?

They need to stop making the same mistakes.

1. Refusing to lift a finger to save people form being mass murdered, condemning those who do take action, and then mocking us with the line that their refusal to step up is for humanitarian reasons. Millions may die, and they don't lift a finger.

Is there anything unreasonable in that requirement? That was their error during the Holocaust, and they are still committing it today. So how different are they?

Millions die and all they can do is talk. What a virtue they make of callous cowardice. Have Euros given in and agreed that their soldiers in Afghanistan may acctually do any fighting yet? Have they upped their force to contributions that they don't have to keep secret for shame?

2. They need to stop trying to pull an identity switch with "their friends," by portraying us as evil Nazis. Too much to ask? They demonized and dehumanized the image of the Jew while working themselves up into the Holocaust, and now they're doing the same thing to image of the American.

That's reform?

Only when they face facts that it wasn't "other" people who did it and STOP doing it, will they be able to move on. Because then they will no longer be people who do that stuff.

But in denial and through anti-Americanism, they will never be able to.

Now, I am eager to see what you will make out of that.

Glad you mentioned Darfur. Back when Secretary of State Colin Powell and the UN Secretary general went there to focus world attention on the genocide a few years ago, we were preparing to establish a no-fly zone that would immediately stop the killing.

It would have grounded the Sudanese air force so they could no longer fly support for the junjaweed and it would sent the junjaweed scattering for caves in the hills.

But French President Chirac (with German Chancellor Schroeder's support) made a speach in which he said he feared that the US was thinking of invading the Muslim land of Sudan.

End of plans for no-fly-zone.

That was a bridge too far = once too often perverse Europe played that stunt on us. Now accuse us of isolationism, right?

Now say that the only reason we haven't taken action is because the Sudan has nothing we want. But if we had taken action, you would say that it was for Sudanese oil.

That's Europe. Double-dealing and treacherous, through and through, as in sandbagging Colin Powell over Iraq.

In fact, when the tsunami struck, Chirac did it again. When the US sent a battle group to aid the victims, Chirac had another public premonition, this time that the US was thinking of invading Muslim Indonesia!

Every goody-goody Euro sucked that one up too. The UN guy in charge did likewise till he got word that we were sending orders to tell the battle group turn around and go back to Japan with its helicopters.

Then all of a sudden you should have seen the UN guy falling over himself to reverse himself and say that those fears of the US being out to invade Indonesia were ridiculous and that our ships and helicopters were worth their weight in gold for saving lives.

That's Europe, always with its anti-American foot in its mouth.

So, Darfur? Let Europe do it. We do not have to walk into that trap. By playing that dirty trick, Europe releived us of the moral obligation to act militarily. Because we have the inalienable right to pursue happiness. No one ever is morally obligated to do something that will bring hurt upon him for the sake of others. That is a law of Nature.

So, we don't have to help others when we know that they are being used as bait for a trap.

If we took action there, Euros would scream that we evil as usual, inciting more anti-American hatred of us to get Americans hated and killed just for being American.

That's Europe's plan: get America to do it (through moral bullying if necessary) and then demonize America for doing it.

So Europe is morally obligated to take action in Darfur, not the US. Which is why nothing will ever get done for those people.

They are as callous as Chirac, upon whose head is the blood of all in Durfur murdered since.

"For a guy that wears a dress and uses makeup, and has homosexual tendencies I do owe you a debt of gratitude...."

What does your wearing a dress and having homosexual tendencies have to do with it?

Please, keep things like that to yourself. We aren't interested.