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Saturday, June 9. 2007Americans Consider Germany Their Fourth Most Important PartnerPosted by Joerg Wolf in Transatlantic Relations on Saturday, June 9. 2007
Robert Gerald Livingston, a senior visiting fellow at the German Historical Institute, Washington, D.C., writes in The Atlantic Times about an image survey commissioned by the German embassy in Washington:
In the ranking of a thousand Americans, Germany is one of the most important international partners for the U.S. – following Great Britain, Canada and Japan. Germans, like Americans but unlike the French, care a great deal about what other nations think of them. This should cheer them up: For Americans, Germany ranks ahead of all European countries except Britain, well ahead of France or Spain and, surprisingly, even farther in front of Italy, Poland, Ireland and Greece, the countries of origin of many immigrant Americans who retain links to their native lands and support active political lobbying on their behalf. (...)I hope the other two thirds responded "I can't answer this question, because I don't know anything about Germany." I wonder whether Japan's refusal to confront its own history is of any concern. Please don't interpret this snarky comment as a comparison of German and Japanese crimes. It is only a comment on confronting history (Vergangenheitsbewältigung). Americans probably consider Japan a more important ally than Germany because Japan has sent tens of thousands of combat troops to fight in Southern Afghanistan... The article about this survey ends on a positive note: Those Americans who have actually been in Germany have a far better opinion about it than those who have not. Trackbacks
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Axel
- #1 - 2007-06-09 02:19 - (Reply)
Interesting analysis. The problem always is the great number of people who simply use cues or information shortcuts when answering questions about political issues they aren't familiar with. I'm pretty sure that if an institute had asked Germans about the percentage of people in the US who favoured an Iraq invasion during the run-up in late 2002 and early 2003 the number would have been unrealisticly high (according to Gallup, it was 57 to 37 percent). Comments ()
Kevin Sampson
- #2 - 2007-06-09 18:07 - (Reply)
"Americans probably consider Japan a more important ally than Germany because Japan has sent tens of thousands of combat troops to fight in Southern Afghanistan..." Comments ()
JW-Atlantic Review
- #2.1 - 2007-06-09 19:43 - (Reply)
I hope you realized that I was sarcastic. Comments ()
Zyme
- #3 - 2007-06-09 20:16 - (Reply)
Britain is their most important partner because its government serves at a "role model" for the other partners: Blind obedience - who doesn´t enjoy that :D Comments ()
JW-Atlantic Review
- #3.1 - 2007-06-09 20:28 - (Reply)
And Japan keeps quiet. Therefore Japan is an important "partner." Comments ()
Don S
- #3.1.1 - 2007-06-13 13:56 - (Reply)
Joerg, Since 1985 or so there is a steady trend in German behavior. Whilst Germany's actual contributions to the mutual defense have dropped precipitously, the volumn of verbal advice and criticism of what which they not longer much participate in has increased just as dramatically. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #4 - 2007-06-09 22:44 - (Reply)
Or perhaps PM Blair was consistently calling for regime change in Iraq while that good ol' boy warmonger GW Bush was still in Texas just beginning his second term governor after winning 69% of the popular vote. Numbers candidates in parliamentary democracies would sell their mothers, if not already, for. Comments ()
JW-Atlantic Review
- #4.1 - 2007-06-10 04:23 - (Reply)
"Even earlier than 1998 PM Blair and eventually Pres. Clinton were calling for either complete and unfettered inspections or a involuntary change of Iraq's leadership." Comments ()
mbast
- #4.1.1 - 2007-06-12 17:13 - (Reply)
"Or it's like me "calling for" sunshine." Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #5 - 2007-06-10 07:04 - (Reply)
"Calling" is indeed ambivalent and it was my choice of wording. Whereas PM Blair said, "I told the House [Parliament] on 16 November [1997] that if he [Sadam Hussein] again obstructed the work of the inspectors we would strike. No warning. No wrangling. No negotiation. no last minute letters." This seems a much stronger statement than a boilerplate call for suffrage. Comments ()
David
- #6 - 2007-06-10 12:45 - (Reply)
There he goes again - blaming it on Clinton. Comments ()
JW-Atlantic Review
- #6.1 - 2007-06-10 13:17 - (Reply)
But many Democrats voted for the war as well. Comments ()
David
- #6.1.1 - 2007-06-10 18:26 - (Reply)
Yes, Hillary voted for the war, which is why I volunteer for the Obama campaign. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #7 - 2007-06-10 15:20 - (Reply)
I most certainly did not blame Pres. Clinton, in fact he supported the war until some of the blame for its failures started to come his way, but rather pointed out that implying that PM Blair and the UK were some kind of obedient tools of US policy flew in the face of the facts. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #8 - 2007-06-10 20:05 - (Reply)
Then the question must remain for opponents of the war. Why weren't they opposed as early as 1997? That is when the President instructed his Cabinet to prepare the country for war or was this opposition only visible after a Republican was in office? Comments ()
JW-Atlantic Review
- #8.1 - 2007-06-10 21:00 - (Reply)
"Then the question must remain for opponents of the war. Why weren't they opposed as early as 1997?" Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #8.1.1 - 2007-06-10 21:39 - (Reply)
Obviously we will have to agree to disagree but the President's comments to Sec. Cohen about preparing the country for war sound much more serious than missile and bombing raids, which are still considered acts of war under any definition. Comments ()
David
- #9 - 2007-06-11 01:55 - (Reply)
Hey Pat. I was around in 2002. I had to listen to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice talk about the "grave threat" Saddam posed to America nearly every day, while Tom Ridge raised the threat level to orange. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #10 - 2007-06-11 02:15 - (Reply)
No, but I'm beginning to wonder about your obsession with it. Plus again I see absolutely no attempt to respond to what I actually said. Where, as I already noted, did I blame Clinton and where did I post anything except the actual chronology of events leading up to the 3rd Gulf War. How am I supposed to respond when I suspect that the person making the charges has neither followed the links or actually read what I wrote? Comments ()
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