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No Additional Sanctions for Iran for now?Posted by Editors in Transatlantic Relations on Tuesday, December 4. 2007 The Bush administrations new intelligence assessment that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003 is likely to complicate efforts to impose new sanctions on Iran at the United Nations Security Council, European officials said Monday. (...) Welcome! You are reading the ATLANTIC REVIEW -- a Press Digest on Transatlantic Relations combined with commentary and analysis by four young professionals from Germany, the Netherlands and the United States. More about us. The horizontal menu bar at the top helps to navigate this site. Subscribe to one of our RSS-Feeds or to our newsletter, which is emailed twice per month.Trackbacks
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Don S
- #1 - 2007-12-04 15:57 - (Reply)
Yup. And if the *new* assessment is any more accurate than the old one was - that is the proper policy.
Kyle Atwell
- #1.1 - 2007-12-04 18:41 - (Reply)
I have long supported sanctions against Iran based on the apocryphal story that Iran was maintaining a nuclear weapons program.
SC
- #1.1.1 - 2007-12-06 20:05 - (Reply)
Kyle,
pen Name
- #2 - 2007-12-04 16:28 - (Reply)
US used EU and after reaching an agreement on Iraq with Iran, hung them (EU) out to dry.
David
- #3 - 2007-12-04 18:41 - (Reply)
According to the Washington Post, Bush was briefed on the revised intelligence last summer, but that didn't stop him from hyping the threat and warning about World War III up through last week. Deja vu of the run-up to the Iraq invasion.
Pat Patterson
- #3.1 - 2007-12-04 19:53 - (Reply)
I always suspicious of unsourced quotes which are often lifted from other blogs without being read in their entirety, such as Norman Podhoretz's "...darker suspicions..." He raises the arguable point concerning leaks from the intelligence community that will resonate considering how abysmally wrong these estimates have been over the last decade. But nowhere in the article does the name of Pres. Ahmadinjad even appear making the charge that Podhoretz claimed this link utter nonsense. By reading the whole commentary one is struck by the last quote from Stephen Hadley, National Security Adviser, "The estimate offers ground for hope that the problem can be solved diplomatically-without the use of force. As the Administration has been trying to do."
David
- #3.1.1 - 2007-12-04 20:54 - (Reply)
"the left which might have to admit that the threat of bombing and the pressure of sanctions and negotiations worked."
Don S
- #3.1.1.1 - 2007-12-04 21:37 - (Reply)
Let's see. That would be right after Bush's 'Axis of Evil' speech, would it be?
Reid of America
- #3.1.1.2 - 2007-12-04 21:42 - (Reply)
If the NIE report is accurate, Iran stopped their nuclear weapons program in response to US military activities in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Pat Patterson
- #4 - 2007-12-04 20:05 - (Reply)
Here's the link, scroll down to Norman Podhoretz's comment and also Max Boot has an interesting take on David's claim that the President was fully briefed last summer, which he wasn't until last week.
David
- #5 - 2007-12-04 20:49 - (Reply)
Here is the pertinent graph from the Washington Post:
Pat Patterson
- #5.1 - 2007-12-04 22:37 - (Reply)
So we go from a plot between Pres. Ahmadinejad and the CIA et al., and the charge that the President was briefed last summer evem though with "moderate confidence" that the program had been stopped. The former claim somehow not being relevant anymore and the latter being that the President should have been briefed. Much like Pres. Clinton claimed that he was not briefed on the Sudanese offer to turn over Bin Ladin and then could deny any knowledge of that offer.. How can one see when backpedaling so furiously?
BernieGoldberg
- #5.1.1 - 2007-12-04 22:49 - (Reply)
Well, just watched the Presidents news conference today, the first one in seven weeks if we are to believe the wires..., and he indeed said that he wasn't briefed up until last week. But to infer from that that other sources haven't informed him beforehand would be an overstatement. He is just navigating the icebergs (fantastic German word, by the way).
David
- #5.1.2 - 2007-12-04 23:21 - (Reply)
You can spin this as another glorious victory for Dear Leader, but perceptions matter. Scanning the national and international headlines on Google News I see that the NIE report is seen by most as another serious blow to the credibility of the Bush adminstration.
BernieGoldberg
- #5.1.2.1 - 2007-12-04 23:26 - (Reply)
Well, I'm on your side, David, but I believe Bush was not lying when he said that he wasn't briefed officially by the intel community on the NIE, give him the benefit of the doubt. The important thing for me is that he doesn't dispute the findings but he appreciates them and in order not to look foolish -- of course -- he must maintain to some extent his hard line on Iran. What's more important, though, is that the Cheney faction inside the admin is seriously weakened and that we can conclude as the one certain thing from this NIE that war with Iran has become much more unlikely before the Bush presidency ends. That's the real good news of today (at least IMHO). Best, Bernie
Joerg - Atlantic Review
- #5.1.2.1.1 - 2007-12-04 23:39 - (Reply)
Hi Bernie, long time no hear. Welcome back!
David
- #5.1.2.1.2 - 2007-12-05 01:33 - (Reply)
Bernie,
Anonymous
- #6 - 2007-12-04 21:58 - (Reply)
"I suspect that both Bush/Cheney and Rudy/Podhoretz will not get their war anytime soon...."
Pat Patterson
- #7 - 2007-12-05 03:11 - (Reply)
Is that the same Senator Rockefeller that denied he had been briefed on the domestic wire tap program for months, until he finally admitted that yes he had indeed known about it and had written an undated and undelivered letter complaining about its legality? And is this the same Senator Rockefeller that for months was against immunity for the telecoms because of possible lawsuits for participating in the domestic program now suddenly amenable to this immunity after employees and their relatives of Verizon, for one example, donated over $25,000 in 2006 and 2007 vs. 0 in 2005? It might not be much but at least the Senator answered the phone!
David
- #7.1 - 2007-12-05 12:04 - (Reply)
Pat - it must be so difficult to be a True Believer these days.
Reid of America
- #7.1.1 - 2007-12-05 12:23 - (Reply)
Bush believed the NIE that Saddam Hussein had WMD's. The left called him a liar. Now the NIE changes it's ESTIMATE and Bush is a liar because he doesn't accept it instantly as truth.
Pat Patterson
- #7.1.2 - 2007-12-05 14:58 - (Reply)
And here's exactly what Stephen Hadley said, "...Bush was fist told in August or September about intelligence indicating Iran had halted its weapons program, but was advised it would take time to evaluate. Vice President Cheney, Hadlyey and other top officials were briefed the week before last. Intelligence officials formalized their conclusions on Tuesday and briefed Bush the next day."
David
- #8 - 2007-12-05 16:56 - (Reply)
The NYTimes puts it well in its lead editorial today:
John in MI
- #9 - 2007-12-05 22:21 - (Reply)
The new NIE of course has domestic political implications, but lets forget about those for a moment and think about what it actually implies about the situation in Iran.
Merkel-2
- #10 - 2007-12-11 03:19 - (Reply)
I don't think Iran have nuclear bomb program for the time being. I had noticed CIA attempts to cook-up datas to describe IRAN as a nuclear state. They had published several discredited reports on Iran and Iraq 's nuclear programs. The most updating reports claims that IRAN had suspended its nuclear bomb program from 2003. That maybe the outcome of political struggle. It is by no means an open expression of US goodness to Iran. US maybe want to adjust their diplomacy to solve the politic dilemma. So CIA and other intelligence institutes also manipulate information to reach its goal. There is no use to arguing whether President Bush is a liar. They are all liars. With enough inspection on them ,will make them behave gracefully and rationally.
John in Michigan, USA
- #10.1 - 2007-12-18 02:47 - (Reply)
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